Comments on: Prediction: Web 2.0 kills J2ME

By: Marc Palmer

Marc Palmer — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:51:12 +0000

Evan – Technically j2me does provide the best games. But you are making the assumption that the best games technology beats the best commercial option. Very often not true. Betamax. PS3. There are many others.

By: evanx

evanx — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:23:13 +0000

oh so now you get games on web 2.0, do you? (Homer Simpson said, “Oh so now you get the internet on computers, do you” heh heh.) well i would suggest j2me is best for games. For one thing, there are zagillions of j2me handsets. I suspect a future iphone might include j2me, because there are so many games and games developers targeting j2me, for the above reason.

By: Marc Palmer

Marc Palmer — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:21:36 +0000

Deepak, I think you’re dreaming! JavaFX will surely never take over from Flash which it clearly targets.

Java on the server has nothing to do with Java on the client. If you are transferring serialized java objects you’re mad! Everyone uses JSON, XMLRPC, SOAP or other transports these days. For J2ME where bandwidth is critical you’d want a custom binary transport anyway that is ultra-efficient.

As such with a J2ME app it makes no difference if you hava Java, PHP, Ruby or Perl running on the server.

By: Deepak K

Deepak K — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:53:58 +0000

I think JavaME gives great capability. I don’t understand why apple did this. They have been selling Java based server products on Apple platform. Transferring the data as Java objects between server and client is a great capability one can have if JavaME is available on phone. JavaFX is a newer cleaner way to program for Mobile.

By: Marc Palmer

Marc Palmer — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:38:56 +0000

PS you need Safari browser for that iPhone Bejeweled link to work

By: Marc Palmer

Marc Palmer — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:38:34 +0000

Yuri – http://static.popcap.com/iphone/

I’m no JS lover but I’ve also been a J2ME developer, and JS development is MUCH easier over the full project lifecycle i.e in terms of “porting” etc. Just grab a copy of the Prototype library or similar and start coding. Refresh reloads. JS debuggers. J2ME eat your heart out.

By: Yuri

Yuri — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:04:35 +0000

…and embrace the hell that is JavaScript development

Seriously, have you seen a popular JavaScript game? And though I hate it myself, I don’t believe that operators will easily give up control of content delivery.

By: Diego

Diego — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:46:00 +0000

It’s not strange manufacturers want to get rid of J2ME. They have to pay a fee to Sun Microsystems for every single device they sell.
Mr. Jobs owns Safari, so it’s cheaper to build apps on top the browser. And this is the same thing for all device manufacturers migrating from Symbian to Linux. The cost of the license fees of Symbian OS, Symbian Apps and J2ME hurt their devices.