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	<title>Comments on: Using JIRA effectively #1</title>
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		<title>By: A Hordes</title>
		<link>http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/2007/03/08/using-jira-effectively-1/comment-page-1/#comment-71220</link>
		<dc:creator>A Hordes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the sub-task feature. I&#039;d like to take it to the next level - subtasks of subtasks.  Change Request is the high-level issue; Requirements are the sub-tasks - and I&#039;d like to have test cases be the sub-tasks of the Requirements.  Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the sub-task feature. I&#8217;d like to take it to the next level &#8211; subtasks of subtasks.  Change Request is the high-level issue; Requirements are the sub-tasks &#8211; and I&#8217;d like to have test cases be the sub-tasks of the Requirements.  Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/2007/03/08/using-jira-effectively-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23267</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it doesn&#039;t do it. You can almost certainly write a plugin to do this but I would recommend contacting Atlassian and asking for this feature. However this is in part down to how you use Jira. Really it should stop you setting fix-for in this contradictory way. It should also offer to automatically close/resolve the parent issue when the last sub-task has been resolved :)

Oh, and it should have the option to exclude sub-tasks from Release Notes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it doesn&#8217;t do it. You can almost certainly write a plugin to do this but I would recommend contacting Atlassian and asking for this feature. However this is in part down to how you use Jira. Really it should stop you setting fix-for in this contradictory way. It should also offer to automatically close/resolve the parent issue when the last sub-task has been resolved <img src='http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and it should have the option to exclude sub-tasks from Release Notes</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
		<link>http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/2007/03/08/using-jira-effectively-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23259</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is their a way to relate the version number of the sub-task to that of the parent? For example we can&#039;t have the parent fix ship in 1.0 if the sub-task does not ship until 1.1. Does JIRA enforce/highlight this or do I have to keep them in sync manually?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is their a way to relate the version number of the sub-task to that of the parent? For example we can&#8217;t have the parent fix ship in 1.0 if the sub-task does not ship until 1.1. Does JIRA enforce/highlight this or do I have to keep them in sync manually?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/2007/03/08/using-jira-effectively-1/comment-page-1/#comment-16793</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s good news - has that changed? As far as I recall sub-tasks were only in the Enterprise version in the past. I may be wrong. 

Re: 2) Do you link the high level request to the development high-level task, i.e. to track when a client task has now been completed, and in which version? Manualy linking in Jira is very painful IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s good news &#8211; has that changed? As far as I recall sub-tasks were only in the Enterprise version in the past. I may be wrong. </p>
<p>Re: 2) Do you link the high level request to the development high-level task, i.e. to track when a client task has now been completed, and in which version? Manualy linking in Jira is very painful IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: David Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two comments:

1) JIRA pro allows sub-tasks.

2) Regarding tip#2; because JIRA doesn&#039;t allow infinite levels of subtasks, it was suggested to me that we use a project that I now call &quot;Requests&quot; that store business-language requests in and a sister project called &quot;Development&quot; is used for the actual work to solve those requests. I name the projects &quot;x requests&quot; and &quot;x development&quot; (where x is your app name).  Into the Requests project are things like &quot;Make the application faster&quot;.  When the it is decided to have the dev team address the issue, like you said, many enhancements can be created to solve one request.  I then use the sub-tasks to track things like acceptance tests for that particular enhancement, and documentation tasks to make sure help files and manuals are kept up to date (I can reconcile that each enhancement is documented).  This approach does two things:  1- Allows users to request things in their own language and 2- keeps the development project &quot;clean&quot;.  before we implemented this approach, we&#039;d have hundreds, or thousands of unscheduled requests and that is depressing for development.  Now the unscheduled requests are in the business owner&#039;s project and it is up to them to prioritize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments:</p>
<p>1) JIRA pro allows sub-tasks.</p>
<p>2) Regarding tip#2; because JIRA doesn&#8217;t allow infinite levels of subtasks, it was suggested to me that we use a project that I now call &#8220;Requests&#8221; that store business-language requests in and a sister project called &#8220;Development&#8221; is used for the actual work to solve those requests. I name the projects &#8220;x requests&#8221; and &#8220;x development&#8221; (where x is your app name).  Into the Requests project are things like &#8220;Make the application faster&#8221;.  When the it is decided to have the dev team address the issue, like you said, many enhancements can be created to solve one request.  I then use the sub-tasks to track things like acceptance tests for that particular enhancement, and documentation tasks to make sure help files and manuals are kept up to date (I can reconcile that each enhancement is documented).  This approach does two things:  1- Allows users to request things in their own language and 2- keeps the development project &#8220;clean&#8221;.  before we implemented this approach, we&#8217;d have hundreds, or thousands of unscheduled requests and that is depressing for development.  Now the unscheduled requests are in the business owner&#8217;s project and it is up to them to prioritize.</p>
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		<title>By: ejel</title>
		<link>http://www.anyware.co.uk/2005/2007/03/08/using-jira-effectively-1/comment-page-1/#comment-13763</link>
		<dc:creator>ejel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that Sub-task is an important feature and should be available in other version of Jira as well. Currently, I am using Jira Standard version and I have to use Issue Linking feature to implement sub task functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that Sub-task is an important feature and should be available in other version of Jira as well. Currently, I am using Jira Standard version and I have to use Issue Linking feature to implement sub task functionality.</p>
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